HomeMy WebLinkAboutP&Z Minutes 1974-01-24 RegularFPZ C-M--1-24- 74
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISS10N
January 24, 1974
A regular meeting of the Friendswood Planning and Zoning Commission
was held at Friendswood City Hall on Thursday, January 24, 1974.
Vice -Chairman Tracy Spears presided in the absence of Chairman
C. C. Bost.
MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT
Tracy Spears, Vice -Chairman
Leah North, Secretary
Kenneth Fossler
Bob Phillips
Clyde Raney
James B. Shore
C. C. Bost, Chairman
Ed Zeitler, Council Rep.
AUDIENCE
Those signing the attendance roster were:
Bob Carpenter, Friendswood News
Tom and Robin Manison, Camp Manison, 482-1251
George and Ann Sevaty, Camp Manison
Bob White,Camp Manison
Edsel Buchanan, 808 Lochmoor, 482-7262
Wanda Yancey, 206 Whitehall, 482-2344
Tom Roach, 1206 Winding Way, 482-2781
Geraldine Knight, Workman-Banfield Realty, 482-3411
1. MINUTES
January 17, 1974
2. INFORMATION REPORTS
- Approved with the following Correction: (by Raney)
Page 2, first sentence: City Attorney B. J. Hooks,
not City Manager.
A. Statuss Quaker Drive R-O-W. No action.
B. Subdivision Ordinance. Has passed First Reading.
C. Sign Ordinance. No new action reported.
D. Flood Insurance Ordnance. Waiting for City Engineer's comments.
E. Rezoning of High Sphool. No new action reported.
F. Rezoning of other FISD property. No new action reported.
G. Rezoning of City -pro-pe ies. No new action reported.
H. Rezoning of Cecil Brown 16 acres to C-1. No new action.
I. Rezoping oos Fire Station_Site•(Sunset and W. Edgewood.) No action.
J. Rezoning to Specific Use Crown Central -Request 4. Passed
first reading on January 21.
K. Rezoning to Specific Use Autumn HillsRest Home. Passed third
and final reading on January 21.
L. Rezoning -to Wood -Whitaker Tract. Passed third and final
reading on January 21. At the time of passage, Councilman
Windler expressed the sentiment that he would like to see a
comprehensive plan presented by the Commission. That he was
not in favor of requests for rezoning to Commercial Use coming
in bit by bit.
M. Heritage Estates, Section One �. Has been recorded.
N. Coward Creek S/D. Not yet filed. Waiting on deed restrictions.
0. M-ugtane Meadows Ste. ?.
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(Information Reports -continued)
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P. Polly Ranch S/D. Approved by Council January 7, 1974. Plat
had been filed in County Clerk's Office in September without
signature of Council or Planning Commission Secretary. Mrs.
North appeared at this meeting to protest approval until
certain areas were complied with. A copy of the plat as
filed and copies of the legal instruments accompanying the Attach
Court Order, as well as the Court Order were subsequently #1
given to the Secretary for Commission files.
Q. Dow Pipeline. The Secretary reported that representatives of
Village Green (Hoff"and others) would like to meet with the
Commission before the hearing. It was the feeling of the
Commission that there was a possibility that the citizens
might come before the Commission to voice opposition and ACTION
then not come to the hearing. However, the representatives
may request to be on the agenda if they still wish to be
heard.
R. Amoco Pipeline. North expressed the feeling that the
Commission should contact Amoco, since Amoco has not
initiated action. Raney felt that Amoco's letter stated that
they were aware of City Ordinances. No action taken.
S. National Investor's Hedge. No new developments.
T. Statuss Illegal signs ' - The Secretary reported on a letter
received from Tony Banield protesting a request to remove a Attach
sign advertising Salem Square Apartments on the basis of what #20
he considered a questionable interpretation of the zoning
ordinance by one of the Commission members and also citing
the existence of several other signs near the Salem Square
sign. This letter was sent to the City Manager, not the
Commission, and was read at the last Council meeting. No
action was taken by Council. Spears asked if all the sign
owners got letters. Fossler would like a copy of the letter
which was sent out. The Secretary will get this information. ACTION
V. Any other information reports. None.
U. School Bus Barn. No new action reported.
W. Access Control - Phillips. No report. Has THD info from Sec'y file.
X. Architectural Control - Spears. Has Santa Fe ordinance.
Y. Fire Zones - North. No report.
74-A..Open Meetings law and open records law. Report skipped in
interest of time.
74-B. Illegal trailers. No new action reported.
74-C. Greenbriar S D. Section ONe,
74-D. Simpson Apartments. Mr. Simpson appeared before Council on
January 21, requesting permission to build his apartments. He
was told -that he had not complied with the Board of Adjustment's
requirements in time and Council did not have the authority to
give him approval.
74-E. Rezoning request: Woodlawn/Heritage Office complex.-R-1 to C-1.
Recommendation to rezone needs to be'given to the City
Secretary by the Commission Secretary.
74-F. Dunbar Estates Bridge. The Secretary reported that she had
observed the Dunbar Estates bridge during recent flooding after
hearing two complaints. She found that the water was going
over and around the bridge. That a large pipe against the
downstream side of the bridge was trapping debri and seemed to
be contributing to a backing up of water. Also, fill.seemed to
have been added underneath the ends of the bridge in the original
stream banks. Spears thought the bridge had been planned to be
above flood levels. North replied that it had not been, that
water seemed about four to six inches higher on the upstream side.
No action needed. None taken.
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�. HEARING- SUNSET DRIVE EXTENSION
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Mr. Spears called the hearing to order at 8:10 P.M. He stated
that each speaker would be given five minutes initially to speak and
that it was usual for the opponents of the proposal to speak first.
He asked the audience if any were opposed to the extension and wished
to speak.
Tom Manison. Mr. Tom Manison, owner of Camp Manison, through which
the southerly extension of Sunset would run, spoke first. he stated
that he wished to go on record as being opposed. He gave a background
on the camp. In Houston there are now only four major corporation
picnic areas. Camp Manison is one of two that can take care of
1000 or more people. In the Camp itself, the major improvements are
on the east side of the proposed road. He stated that a road through
the middle would put him out of business, since children would have
to cross a boulevard to get to trail areas or camping.
He also granted that the extension would probably increase the value
of his real estate, but was not his interest. He said that he
understood that one of the Commission's objectives was to keep the
density of housing low and that having 175 acres of camp area
contributed to that goal.
Raney asked if another location of the road through Camp Manison
would work the same hardship. Mr. Manison answered that running the
road through the "back" side of the property would still be a
hardship, but that he would not object to that location. He repeated
that the present proposal would put him out of business.
Mr. Manison also felt that where the bridge was located which would
take Sunset across Chigger Creek there existed about 100 yards
widthwise that floods, which would make for an expensive bridge.
Mr. Spears asked if there was anyone Ise who wished to speak.
There was no response from the audience.
Bob Atkinson. Since the Commission's new Planning Consultant was
present, he was asked his opinion. Since Mr. Atkinson had not seen
the proposal before, his suggestions were to be taken as tentative,
but he suggested (1) that the curve south of the intersection with
F. M. 528 be flattened, and (2) that Sunset could be broughtinto the
intersection at F. M. 518, possibly paralleling the pipeline easement,
and (3) that F. M. 518 from the north could then be curved into
what would then be Sunset to meet it at a right angle near the intersect!
intersection. This could be done in stages, which the original
proposal could not do. The connection of F.M. 518 to Sunset could
be made in one stage development, the widening of the thoroughfare in
another stage, and flattening the curve in another. Also, this
suggestion would shorten the paving required and would not necessitate
another bridge across Chigger Creek.
Mr. Manison asked to be notified of any future meetings on Sunset.
MOTION WAS MADE by Raney, seconded by Phillips, that no action be
taken as a result of the hearing until a more intensive study of
traffic control is undertaken with our Planning Consultant.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
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4. BUILDING PERMITS (815o P.M.)
Ron's Crispy Mr. Jim Gawlick, architect, appeared to present
Chicken more questions regarding set -back in a Commercial
Zone on a corner. He believed that there was
a contradiction in the Zoning Ordinance between
Pages nine and ten regarding the definition of
"yard" and page 37, note b under C-1, which he
thought could be a typographical error.
A discussion followed. Mr. Spears took a poll
of the Commission to see if the Commission agreed
that Mr. Gawlick would either have to accept the
thirty foot set --back off Shadowbend or seek
a variance. Spears, Phillips, Raney and North
agreed. Fossler had no opinion.
The discussion continued.
Mr. Spears informed Mr. Gawlick that he would have
to accept the thirty foot set -back or go to the
Board of Adjustment for a variance.
Mr. Gawlick questioned if the City Attorney were
available for an opinion. He was again advised that
he should ask Mr. Cline the procedure to go to the
Board of Adjustment.
5. REZONING REQUESTS None on agenda.
6. SUBDIVISIONS (9:22 P.M.)
Pine Shadows Preliminary Plans of Pine Shadows were presented
(Roach) by Tom Roach, owner. No contour line was shown,
the Commission agreed that they had told Mr.
Roach this would not be necessary.
MOTION WAS MADE by Raney, seconded by Phillips,
that the preliminary plans be approved.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Greenbriar II Neither of these subdivisions were ready.
Heritage II
7. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
"Movie" sign Mr. Spears presented a request for a sign that had
been referred to the Commission by Mr. Cline.
After some discussion about what was meant by some
of the description of the sign, it was suggested
by Mr. Spears that the theater owners should be
present to present details.
Optimist Club Another referral from Mr. Cline concerned a
Sign request from the Optimist Club to add a sign to
the Chamber of Commerce sign on the northerly
edge of the City on F. M. 518. It was determined
that the location of this sign is actually in
Pearland and Mr. Cline was to be so informed.
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"Access" standards Planning Consultant Atkinson presented a proposal
for Driveway, Sidewalk, and Parking Lot standards,
presenting copies to all Commission members. He
suggests that this be incorporated into the
Building Code. He has talked to the Texas Highway
Department in regard to the construction on 518.
They tell him that for curbed streets in the City,
the City gives final permission for curb cuts. If
it is included in the Building Code, that City
can permit or not permit curb cuts. He will
bring drawings and exhibits to accompany the
worded standards next week.
Curb cuts (518) Spears asked who was determining the location of
the curb cuts on 518 now. Atkinson replied that
the lot owner probably was. Phillips asked if he
were suggesting that all come before the Planning
Commission. Atkinson replied that he was making
the suggestion because someone needs to make the
decision. Perhaps the residential permits could
be handled by Mr. Cline and the Commercial by the
Commission. Raney asked about residences on
State Highways, stating that he was not sure he
wanted to give up all residential. Atkinson
suggested that we might require that residences on
major highways arranged their drives so that they
do not have to back out. Mr. Cline could handle
this, perhaps.
Need for concrete Fossler stated that he thought the seven items
figures listed were great, but that concrete numbers were
needed. More items could be handled by the
administrative if concrete numbers were given.
Atkinson said that these will be presented next
meeting.
Mr. Atkinson stated that adoption of these standards
would give flexibity to the Commission (or Mr. Cline).
The City would not be bound to give as many access
drives as the lot owner might want. The City would
not have to grant an access every twenty feet, but
jest enough to give reasonable access.
Parking stripes Atkinson stated that the City needs to require
people to stripe their parking lots. Problems with
existing facilities we can't do anything about, but
when the facilities are enlarged, we could make the
requirement for striping. He stated that usually
remodeling over a certain percent (of cost) requires
a building permit.
Phillips asked where the building permit lists that
the Commission used to get were. He wonders if
permits were issued for the improvements at places
like Gil's T.V. The Secretary will obtain.
Curb cuts (518) Atkinson stated that he is supposed to be getting
copies of the construction plan for 518 from the
Highway Department. He will give recommendations
to us for curb cuts.
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Woodlawn-Heritage The question of the rezoning for W oodlawn-Heritage
Rezoning Office complex was raised. The Secretary had not
included it on the agenda since the fee for the
rezoning had not been received by the agenda
deadline. The Commission felt that the hearing
should be called.
MOTION WAS MADE by Phillips, seconded by Fossler,
to set the hearing for March 7, 8 P.M., for the
rezoning request to change the Woodlawn-Heritage
tract from R-1 to C-1.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ron's Crispy (11:07) Mr. Gawlick requested additional time.
Chicken He was permitted to present his argument again.
No action was taken.
Election of It was agreed to hold the Commission's election of
Officers officers on February 21.
Kids Day In response to a request from Police officer Williams
the Commission agreed to cooperate in holding a
"Kid's Day" in the near future.
Name plates The Secretary suggested that the Commission needs
identifying name plates since more and more of the
people appearing before us are not from Fri_endswood
and are not acquainted with the Commissioners.
This was brought to her attention recently when
one of the people who appeared before the
Commission asked who the man was in the middle
called "Red." (Chairman C. C. Bost was the
correct answer.) The Secretary volunteered to
make some signs. Spears also volunteered that he
could get some plastic ones.
Books The Secretary reminded the Commission that three
of them have books out which need to be brought
back and passed around. "Mr. Planning Commissioner"
was given to Fossler.
Amoco Raney told the Commission he was meeting with Amoco
Monday at 3 P.M. regarding gathering lines is any
of the Commission were interested.
8. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business brought before the Commission, the
meeting was adjourned.
Xlal
Secretary
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